The Importance of Ancestry — China

Chinese were asked “How important for citizenship — in your opinion — is having ancestors from this country?”

Chinese ancestry is important for Chinese citizenship - responses by age and class - 2007
#1 — Upper-class Chinese youth are noticeably more “voelkisch” than their lower-class peers.
#2 — Korea and China stand in contrast to Germany and Poland, in whose case “Yes” skews lower class. I do not understand why this would be.
#3 — A caveat here: Chinese self-identified “upper-class” youth, at 8% of the sample, are too small to be socially-influential.

Among 100 Chinese youth answering “Yes”,
– 11 are Upper-Class (8% overall)
– 52 are Middle-Class (55% overall)
– 37 are Lower-Class (37% overall)

“Yes” (ancestry is vital to citizenship) skewed moderately upper-class.

#4 — Continuing from #3, class in this survey is based on self-identification. If almost everyone identifies as one class, the data is almost unusable: In Vietnam, e.g., 86% claim to be lower-class, so of little value.

#5 — An important technical issue: 24.5% of Chinese respondents answered “Don’t Know”, with “Don’t Knows” skewing towards the older. (Germany, Poland, and South-Korea recorded under 3% “Don’t-Knows”.) This creates the illusion that younger Chinese are saying “Yes” more often than older, which is not true.

Here are the stats with the “I Don’t Knows”.
Chinese ancestry is important for Chinese citizenship - full responses by age - 2007

If dividing-out the IDKs, over-50s say “Yes” at a rate of 77%, under-30s only 67%. A lesson in statistical distortion, which are reverse the proportions in the full-data (and the first table in this post).

— Why does “Yes” skew upper-class in Oriental countries (China and South Korea), but skews lower-class among Europeans?

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10 Responses to The Importance of Ancestry — China

  1. Duke says:

    Why does “Yes” skew towards upper-class in Oriental countries but skews lower-class among Europeans?

    Interesting question.

    It could be because the upper-class in Oriental countries are indigenous, racially and ethnically native to the countries. Whereas an alien element has played a major role in the upper-class in European countries and has promoted a cosmopolitan outlook.

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  4. Hail says:

    Duke, you must be referring to “Political Correctness”. Some interesting research has speculated about why the high-IQ seem to be more politically-correct than the rest.

    The problem: Isn’t “PC” One-World-ism also influential in the Orient? This survey is from 2007, not 1957.
    We can see “PC” influence because the Oriental trend overall is towards “Ancestry is Not Important”. Their upper-classes are against this trend, and are becoming increasingly “voelkisch”.

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  6. ML says:

    The problem: Isn’t “PC” One-World-ism also influential in the Orient?

    Not the same phenomenon over there. Their numbers are too great, and their racial instincts too distinctive to succumb to Judeo-Western mind-rot. I think the simple answer here is that the lower classes are probably unhappy under one-party rule, are downtrodden, and identifying patriotism with the party, disavow belonging from glum disinterest or even in defiance; while the affluent, having succeeded under current rule, see foreigners as threatening the political status quo that has raised or sustains their estate. The Chinese peasantry has been disenfranchised for a very long time, and foreign presence in the villages and really everywhere except the most exclusive or likely places (global offices, tourist attractions, port cities) is negligible; again, then, we may be seeing the effect of a lack of “immunity” from lack of exposure. The issue has never been pushed on them, cannot be pushed them, as it has been on us. For lower-class Chinese it is pure abstraction — “What people with foreign ancestry?” For us, it is an existential crisis.

  7. Hail says:

    ML writes:
    For lower-class Chinese it is pure abstraction — “What people with foreign ancestry?” For us, it is an existential crisis.

    This is a very good point towards explaining China’s result.

  8. K says:

    In poorly rules countries with glaring inequalities like Thailand and China, the ruling elites encourage nationalism and ethnic chauvinism as a way to focus anger away from the ruling group and towards the outside world. A general rule is, the more messed up a country is, the more “proud” it’s people are, as a compensation. This attitude is massively encouraged by the elites in those countries.

    You might think, then, that the elites themselves remain cynically unaffected by this attitude even while they encourage it amongst the lower orders, but things don’t really work that way. People, even ruling elites, are rarely so deliberate and knowingly cynical. Instead, the elites little by little, without fully knowing what they do or why, create an atmosphere of chauvinism and ethnic nationalism, and a culture saturated with these ideas, guided by an instinct for self-preservation.

    • Hail says:

      Your theory holds up for Thailand and China, but how do you explain South-Korea’s similar result?

      — The older generation grew up with much greater inequality, and “voelkisch” sentiment skews lower-class.
      — The youngest generation grew up much wealthier and with much less inequality, yet “voelkisch” sentiment skews upper-class.

      Unfortunately, World Values Survey did not include Japan, which could be a “control”, an obviously well-run, non-polarized Oriental society.

  9. Hail says:

    Confirmation of my finding that degree of ethnic-identity among Orientals skews upper-class:

    “Asians with higher education levels have a higher ethnic identification (Xie and Goyette 1997) and are less likely to interracially marry”.

    (From An Analysis of the Racial Experiences of People of Asian/White Heritage, University of Southern California, 2007).

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